Thursday, February 24, 2011

Otherworld Tales Irish the Demon Slayer by C.T. Markee

Hi Charles: This is my first middle grade children's book and it is an exciting read! I see you have written a book that includes Ireland. What are your connections to that country?

My whole life has been embedded in Irish culture. The central character in Otherworld Tales: Irish the Demon Slayer, Peter (Irish) Kehoe, is named after my maternal great-grandfather, Peter Kehoe, who was born in Ireland and immigrated to this country in the midst of the great potato famine, circa 1850. When I was growing up in San Francisco, we lived in an Irish neighborhood. Kehoe relatives, Irish nuns, priests and brothers surrounded me. Our high school motto was and still is “The Fightin’ Irish.” The fascinating Irish poet and IRA rebel, Ella Young, who conversed with animals, trees and even rocks, inspired the talking trees in my story. And finally, in the midst of writing the book, I toured Ireland to see the landscape where the famous Celtic warrior, Cuchulain, fought his battles and I visited Tara, where I placed the castle of Aine, queen of the fairies.

What inspired you to write a middle grade fiction book?

My characters. I wanted to capture the summers I spent in San Geronimo, Marin County, wandering the hills, forests and creeks with my two best friends. They ended up in the story as Streak and Huff. That time is still vivid in my memory. Back then, the area was open countryside We were 12-years-old, so middle-grade was a natural target audience for the story. Some part of me still exists back then.

What was your favorite book when you were that age and how is this one different?

I loved the collies in Albert Payson Terhune’s dog books and London’s “Call of the Wild” thrilled me, but my earliest obsession as soon as I learned to read was L. Frank Baum’s stories set in the fabulous Land of Oz. I read and reread all 14 books and I remember my feeling of disappointment reading the subsequent three books by Ruth Plumly Thompson written after Baum’s death.
There are more similarities than differences between Irish the Demon Slayer and Dorothy and the Wizard of Oz. Both protagonists visit a fantastical place, get help from friends, overcome obstacles, defeat a super-evil adversary and return home victorious, although unclear about what happened to them.

I love the epilogue at the end, which tells us what happened to the characters in the book like they are real people. Any comments on this?

When the editor and I finished the book, I suffered post performance withdrawal anxiety. I had lived with the book for five years and I couldn’t let go of the characters. I also identified with my experience as a child finishing a book and wondering what happened next, so I couldn’t disappoint my young readers. I had some pressure from my writing groups to eliminate it because it might obviate a sequel, but I liked it, so it stayed.

Wow Charles, I can almost relate to that. There is a sense of sadness authors feel when the story is finished.  You get up in the morning and there is a loss of rhythm.
It always amazes me how much research a good author does even if they are writing pure fiction. Tell us about your research.

As soon as Peter Kehoe became “Irish,” I started looking for information and accumulating books on Irish lore. I quickly discovered that a culture of oral history depicts the same event a zillion different ways. I spent about two years concurrent with my writing, digging through books that were mostly about fairies and leprechauns. I wanted the most authentic characters I could find and I hit pay dirt when I discovered a treatise titled “Cuchulain of Muirthemne” by Lady Augusta Gregory, a peer and colleague of Yeats. Her renditions were somewhat convoluted, but I outlined the stories and charted the characters in detail and used this to create my own versions of the Celtic episodes. I was able to verify my work later when Marie Heaney (wife of Seanus Heaney of Beowulf translation fame) published her book of Irish legends.
Irish had to undergo some testing to qualify for his journey to the Otherworld. The answer came from another discovery, Blamires’ book on Celtic tree mysteries. Later, traveling in Ireland to get the feel of the land, I purchased detailed contour maps of Ireland and a wonderful book about Tara by Michael Slavin. I wanted to meet Michael, but unfortunately, he was gone the day we were at Tara.

What was it like to make maps of the Otherworld and Queen's Castle. Is this something you did early on?

The maps were always in my mind, but I didn’t sketch them out until I had reached the battle scenes between Irish and his friends and the three armies. As soon as I did, I realized they needed to be in the book, but I didn’t have the tools to make a professional PDF version of the maps. One of the other students in my XHTML class at SRJC was a graphic artist, so I hired her and presto, I had a map for the book. Later, Jo-Anne Rosen had to make modifications in the map for legibility within the trim size I chose for the book.

It is incredible so many people helped you with this adventure! Have you presented your books in any schools?

I’d love to do this, but I’m significantly hearing impaired. I struggle listening to adults. Children with their small voices and quickness are impossible for me. There may be some way for me to do this, but I haven’t come up with an idea.

Maybe our audience will come up with something. Your web site is excellent and you have done a thorough job of getting your book on every electronic device. Can you share how you did this?

Three semesters of XHTML & CSS at SRJC gave me enough tools to craft a reasonable website. As a young engineer, I wrote microcode, so the concept of coding wasn’t new to me, but I had to turn some very rusty gears. You can check it out at:
The Amazon’s Kindle Direct Publishing platform, as well as B&N’s Nook translation tool and Smashword all accept either MS Word or PDF versions of a manuscript with a separate .jpg cover image. For iPhone & iPad I used Unlimited Publishing, a service contracted by CWC that uses an Indian company to do the translation. They preferred MS Word. In some cases, to avoid the complication of converting the maps and the glossary, I stripped them out, added a link in my manuscript text and made them available on my website as a PDF download. I integrated the back cover info into the manuscript front matter. The translation tools are pretty sophisticated and do most of the work. Smashwords calls theirs “The Meat Grinder.”  You just have to follow the guidelines and fill out the forms correctly.

What type of PR have you done to promote your book?

I placed three endorsements by local author/teachers as the first page of the book and I included three endorsements by teens on the back cover. I made the book available from Amazon and Ingram via CreateSpace. I sent email announcements to all my group lists. Then I began a process I call shameless marketing: Showed it to everyone: family, friends, neighbors, other writers – workout club members, doctors, dentists, any workman who provided a service at my house. I sell it at RW meetings, North Bay SCBWI meetings, BAIPA meetings, presented it at the BAIPA bay area booksellers convention, submitted it to contests, to Midwest Book Review, to Publishers Weekly PW Select quarterly guide. On consignment in three Copperfields stores, SOCO and several coffee shops through Jeane Slone. I even sold a copy to our visiting literary agent last October.
This Saturday, I have my first Meet & Greet at the Copperfields in Healdsburg on Feb. 26 from 1:30-3:30 pm. I invite everyone to come and support me!  I have yet to do an official launch party or submit it to a blogger for review.

Charles I wouldn’t call it shameless marketing! When we put years of our life into ONE book it is a sense of pride to want to share it with everyone and you do that very, very well. 
Tell us about the publishing aspect of your book. Would you do it again the same way?

After working every chapter through my writer’s groups and then working it through Jackie Baldwin, a professional children’s book editor, I decided to use Jo-Anne Rosen’s book design service and I was glad I did. I will query out my next book since preliminary feedback from an agent was very positive. But I’m ready to self-publish again if it doesn’t work or takes too long. I would use the same technique.
I also chose to create a fictitious entity, Moonview Press, to market my book without the stigma of self-publishing, call myself a “small press” and establish a separate bank account to track expenses and provide direct routing for royalties.

Who did you self-publish through and what did you like and not like about them?

CreateSpace was incredibly easy to use as a POD publisher, primarily because I did all the prep work with Jo-Anne Rosen in advance and the submitted manuscript was squeaky clean. I am very pleased with the quality of the book. I would definitely recommend them over a subsidy publisher (Lulu, iUniverse, xlibris, etc.). However, my next self-publishing will be with Lightning Source, Inc. (LSI) because of some of the problems listed below and because of flexibility with the discount rate.
CreateSpace provides extended distribution via Ingram, but blocks distribution via Baker & Taylor (libraries buy from them) unless you use their ISBN. I bought my own ISBNs to ensure ownership of the book, so I was locked out of B&T unless I resubmitted the manuscript, selected only B&T and used a CreateSpace ISBN. That’s not an issue with LSI.
CreateSpace provides you with eStore capability, i.e. they give you a link to a web page with the ability to add a cover image and text so it looks like a page on your site. Then, from your website, a buyer can purchase the book from Amazon at list price with a better royalty for you . . . until Amazon slashes their price and undercuts your eStore list price. Amazon does continue to pay you the same royalty amount. They can afford the loss.

What are you cooking up now for a second book?

María's Beads is the story of a Hispanic girl who learns her best friend has a potentially fatal kidney disease and her parents refuse medical intervention for religious reasons. Based on true events, this story, set in Salinas, Calfornia, follows María's dramatic and courageous efforts to save her friend's life while discovering her Huichol Indian roots and a hidden secret of her family's past. The manuscript should be finished by June.

Charles this sounds like a very original story and I'm sure it will be another winner!
The best place to buy Otherworld Tales is from Charles' website:
or support the local coffee shops carrying his book, The Bean Affair, Healdsburg, Geyserville Mud, Barking Dog, Sonoma or Copperfield's.

The winner of by Margaret Murray is Sandy! Congratulations!

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  1. This is an excellent interview, Jeane. Each one is better than the last. It was interesting reading about how he wove his own growing up and Irish roots into the book. I know how hard Charles has worked on this book and its marketing. We can all take a few lessons from him, both about his marketing strategies and publishing experience. I think more and more writers are going to become small or independent publishers. Listening to writers like Charles will help us avoid some of the pitfalls along the way.

  2. Great interview, Jeane and Charles! I found the background you provided, Charles, on the book and your personal history to be very interesting. As another writer with a technology background I can fully appreciate what a challenge it can be to clear all the publishing hurdles.

    I'm not exactly your target audience but I do have your book on my TBR list knowing that I can recommend it on to those who are in your target audience.

    Thanks Charles, and Jeane for an outstanding interview. Much success to you Charles with your new novel, Maria's Beads.

  3. (Transferred from the wrong location)
    JJHenryJr said...
    Congratulations, Chuck! I have Gkids middle school age.
    I have never known a well-known author before.
    Also, you look great!
    jimH - Ole' Amdahl Dude
    February 24, 2011 10:13 AM

  4. Good interview,Jeanne. Wow, Charles, you certainly have my respect for figuring out all that technology. Inspiring to the rest of us. Haven't read the book, but it would make a great gift. Sounds like his next book Maria's Beads might be more my style.

  5. Sounds like a fascinating book - and Maria's Beads is another I'd love to read when it's done...

    janemaritz at yahoo dot com

  6. I really enjoyed this interview, Jeane and Charles. Looking at the cover and knowing the book is for a middle school audience, I initially figured it wasn't my cup of tea, but the interview pulled me in, and now I am eager to read the book. Maria's Beads sounds compelling, too.

  7. Jeanne Jusaitis, mizitis@comcast.netFebruary 28, 2011 at 12:40 PM

    I enjoyed reading this interview, the story behind the book, as I had already read this action-packed middle grade novel. I was particularly interested in the research, the derivation behind the talking trees. I also write in this genre, and am learning a lot about the publishing/marketing world ahead from the model of Charles' dogged determination. Thank you, Jeane, for a great interview.

  8. Great job with the interview, Charles and Jeane!
    I read Charles's IRISH THE DEMON SLAYER back when it first came out and found it to be an action-packed book that should really hook boys into reading. Although, girls who love to read will probably enjoy it too.

  9. persia, persia@persiawoolley.comMarch 7, 2011 at 11:28 AM

    Wonderful interview, both in the range of your questions, Jeane, and the breadth of your answers, Charles. Your knowledge both of your book's subject and the world of self-publishing is great--thank you so much for sharing it with us.

  10. Thanks for sharing your self-publishing efforts, Charles. It's great that there is an opportunity for authors to help each other in this way. Thanks Jeane for a great interview.

  11. Frank BaumgardnerMarch 8, 2011 at 8:54 AM

    Great interview. Congrats to both Jeane and Charles for presenting his work to us all in an attractive, very interesting fashion. My granddaughter Emi and her father Joel and mom Teresa (who live in SF) happened to have just visited us two days ago. After dinner I couldn't resist being induced (seduced?) into watching a Harry Potter episode. Only my first Harry Potter, by the way. Works of fiction like this help open up our minds. The work you did in researching and traveling in Ireland is especially impressive.
    As a California historian, for me at least, the world of fairies, wizards, and Celtic legends/myths is somewhat strange, even a little mind boggling. Not that I don't enjoy a good story like this one appears to be.
    Good luck with your marketing, Charles. You've done a great job so far of researching, writing, publishing and promoting it. I know how hard that is- and what a long strange journey this is- and honestly am still in awe of how we do it. But do it we must!
    It might be just another dumb idea, but is there any chance that Disney and/or PIXAR or some other film maker might be interested in purchasing the rights to your book? Probably you'd need a good agent to leap over that hurdle.

    Albeit, again Charles, good luck and Godspeed your works into the hands of more junior high kids! Teachers really need a lift, especially right now!How can we make our works more affordable and available to schools? Kids SOMEHOW need to be pried away from video games and cable TV. Of course they must have their cell phones
    Best regards,
    Frank Baumgardner

  12. It's great to be able to spin a yarn. It's far better to spin up one's imagination. Charles Markee did the latter. Sharing his dreams, he rekindled mine. I'm a good bit beyond my adolescent years but OTHERWORLD TALES: IRISH THE DEMON SLAYER brought them back in a recollection of my own musings and dreams - that of being a young hero.

    Markee presents a well thought out, very well written story that is sure to captivate his target audience. His characters are multi-dimensional yet manage to stay in character. The villains (OK - antagonists, but here, they are villains) remain exactly as they should be in this tale with believable motives and the appropriate fears and actions. Each protagonist/hero must overcome their weaknesses as well as the challenges of meeting their destiny. The threads of teamwork, sharing and trust are woven throughout. Overall, it has enough twists and turns to keep the reader absorbed and guessing.

  13. Wow! This interview is choke-full of details. A number of elements are uncovered – especially if you are intrigued by processes to publishing. Yea! Jeane & Charles = Good job!!!
    "Shameless commerce," is my new favorite word combination (nod & wink).

  14. Great interview, good answers. Sounds like a book I would enjoy to recommend to middle school and up. Many can relate to your comments on the post-publishing-partum blues.It's a brave new world of publishing out there, but you seem to have licked it, Charles with dogged determination. Good luck on your next endeavor.
    One(unrelated)question for you, Jeane. How come your books are not in the display for Women's History month (March)at the main library in Santa Rosa? They deserve to be there.

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